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I would still like someone to answer my original question about tanking it to the dealer or what to do if you can't fix it. This may not be the right spot for this but I just called and got a list of what to tell you guys. First on the specialist, he is called in by many of the dealerships when they have electoral issues that they can't fix or don't want to. He doesn't have much confidence in them fixing it. The van had no power when we got it. It HAS power now and I am told this is a different problem. Was told problem was with cam in old engine. Spark intensity test on secondary ignition with no break up. Primary ignition - no break up Random cylinder misfire occasionally, 80% of the time on #4 vs. other cylinders. This happens at idle. Cylinder compression on new and old engine 160 to 170. Valve cover removed, Rocker arms appear to be traveling correctly. Fuel pressure consistent @ 45 O2 sensor cross count operating correctly during engine miss. Very intermittent cam shaft position sensor code PO340. Some days we don't get it at all. Can run 3 KOER test with no codes When #4 is missing #4 and 5 can be disconnected and #4 put on #5 with no miss. #4 has new injector New Coil #4 secondary ignition cable tested for leakage from boot to other end. Many plugs tried Oscilloscope amplitude, frequency range perfect and wave pattern perfect with remaining injectors. 12 ohms resistance on injector

I would still like someone to answer my original question about tanking it to the dealer or what to do if you can't fix it. This may not be the right spot for this but I just called and got a list of what to tell you guys. First on the specialist, he is called in by many of the dealerships when they have electoral issues that they can't fix or don't want to. He doesn't have much confidence in them fixing it. The van had no power when we got it. It HAS power now and I am told this is a different problem. Was told problem was with cam in old engine. Spark intensity test on secondary ignition with no break up. Primary ignition - no break up Random cylinder misfire occasionally, 80% of the time on #4 vs. other cylinders. This happens at idle. Cylinder compression on new and old engine 160 to 170. Valve cover removed, Rocker arms appear to be traveling correctly. Fuel pressure consistent @ 45 O2 sensor cross count operating correctly during engine miss. Very intermittent cam shaft position sensor code PO340. Some days we don't get it at all. Can run 3 KOER test with no codes When #4 is missing #4 and 5 can be disconnected and #4 put on #5 with no miss. #4 has new injector New Coil #4 secondary ignition cable tested for leakage from boot to other end. Many plugs tried Oscilloscope amplitude, frequency range perfect and wave pattern perfect with remaining injectors. 12 ohms resistance on injector

Let me tell you now that I am an owner, not a mechanic so my knowledge is limited. I do know my way around the basic stuff. There is no question about the guys skills. He is very well know around my area. Many of the larger shops use him in GA, AL and SC. I have been using him for several years and he has always impressed me. I will order a PCM. There has been some concerns about that. I know I have not given a lot of details on the problem because I wasn't really wanting more information on what to try. I had given up and was ready to pay the penalty to have the dealer take a shot at it. I just wanted advice on how to go about that. Since I will have to wait for the PCM to get here it would be foolish of me to turn down some help. I will get a list of what has been done that I know of.

I took in a 2000 Ford E-250 that had been to 2 other shops before me. I then called in an auto electrician specialist to tell me what was wrong with it. He said it needs a new engine so I put a crate motor in it. Although it now has power it still has a miss that no one can find. The specialist says there is nothing else that he can test it for or any one else. His advice is to drive it and see if the motor is tight and things will improve with time and if not, all that can be done is to start throwing parts at it. If I were to take it to the dealer how should I go about this? Take it in as a shop or just an individual? Is there a chance they would give me a max that it would cost me or do they just want a blank check?

For the most part, no matter how bad the day is, life is great when I get home.

Think about it this way, have you ever called the BBB to check out a business before you go there. I have not and I don't know of anyone that has. I ask my new customers how they heard about me. The most common answer is friend or Google.

I don't do a very good job about up-selling anything at my shop from oil changes but I have found a way to squeak out a little profit from them. Find an inexpensive oil like Advance High Mileage oil and offer it to customers with over 100,000 miles on their cars at a higher price. Many people will pay $15.00 more when they see the sign the recommends High mileage oil for vehicles with over 100,000 miles.

I just saw the post from Joe on this but Craigslist was not mentioned. How many of you use it as your main source?

I now make it a policy to have the police here when I fire someone.

I have always used Craigslist to find Mechanics. Are there better ways? I need a "B" tech now and have not gotten many responses to my add.