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Posts posted by mspecperformance
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Just curious about this. Had a call this morning, tried to get to come to the shop so we could inspect his cooling system for a leak. Was adamant it was coming from the water pump. Acknowledged he could have other issues was super insistent on getting a price for the water pump. Do you give him the price or tell him something different? I find that not giving someone a price once they have made up their mind that's all they want is a recipe for disaster. Thoughts?
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We service sprinters and we are not a bottom feeder shop. We have an Autologic scan tool which takes care of all sprinter needs under the Mercedes Benz. Actually easy to work on and since no one else thinks they are.
Thanks for your post! We also have a Autologic unit dedicated strictly for Mercedes. From what I understand the factory MBZ tool actually no coverage for Sprinters.
Thanks bstewart. I've read those articles already as well as another one from shopownermag.com that were helpful. I want to go into this with my eyes wide open to make sure we are profitable and waste little time with getting it up and running when it comes time.
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Elon, thank you again it was great information and will be implementing the sales process for 2015.
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1. I purchased a 16 foot uniform company truck. I am in the process of building this truck into a mobile tire installation unit.
Have you done research on how profitable this service may be?
2. I have added a free 15 point inspection which we use to sell needed repairs and maintenance.
This is a great idea. Make sure you have a process from start to finish on how to present your findings. This will greatly impact your customers receptiveness to the recommendations and ultimately your sales and ARO.
3. I am slowly but surely adding the value my customers are getting to every job on the invoice description.
Adding more detailed description to your jobs on the invoice is a great idea. You also should emphasis your warranty and anything you give away COMPLIMENTARY (never free).
and finally the reason for this post.
4. I am going to offer a pick-up and delivery service. RI is a very small state and I think this will work well. A huge hurdle for customers is simply finding the time to get their vehicle serviced. I plan on hiring a shop hand who can pick up and deliver these vehicles.
Certainly advertise this without any restrictions. Most people I have found will not take you up on it. If you are getting a large ticket, taking the customer where they need to go or ever given them a rental isn't a bad idea. It really depends on how your business is set up.
My questions are:
Can anyone tell me if they have tried this and what are the pros and cons?
What should I charge?
Is it a good idea to offer this free for repairs over a certain amount or should I charge a flat fee or fee per mile?
Any input would be greatly appreciated.
Jeff
(If they can't come to me... I'll go to them)
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How far do you expect your furthest oick up and drop to be?
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kingwoodshell, if you'd like to ask any questions feel free to PM me. I am an Elite client.
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Excellent advice thank you
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Thanks shopcat at! When it comes to fleet work what do y'all recommend a for labor charge? Parts charge? Warranty? Contract terms.
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thanks Elon. What price point is your recommendation for the Road Hazard Warranty.
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20 mins to rack, remove from car, dismount, clean bead, mount, balance, install on car is impressive. I have never seen that done and probably couldn't count on hitting those times.
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I guess no one likes sprinters or fleet work?
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Also what is your percentage of fleet work to your total sales?
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Some of you may know my shop is a German Car specialty shop. We Service BMW, Mercedes, Audi/VW, Mini (no Porsche not sure if I want to invest in that).
We do ZERO fleet work. My general outlook on fleet work is that I would be competing against a ton of bottom dollar shops out there and there are just too many people out there that do not understand what quality work is. With that being said I am thinking about how to rearrange a few things in my shop and also add a 6th lift for productivity and efficiency purposes. If and when I do I was thinking why not add a lift capable of working on Sprinters. It is after all sort of a Mercedes LOL and from what I am told I should be able to charge a decent rate for labor and the parts are expensive. If I can attract a few accounts that may see value in a German Car shop servicing their German work vans/trucks I may be able to add some significant dollars.
I'd like to get some input on what I should expect with this also specifically if anyone works on a lot of Sprinters. What payment terms do you set with fleet accounts? Your price on labor and parts comparatively to your normal rate? How fast do they expect turn over?
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Carmandp sorry to hear that! I hope everything turns around for you. If you are interested in bouncing ideas off each other feel free to PM me. I am in contact with several members on this great forum. I'm just another guy trying to absorb as much information from the pros.
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Sales Tax ID on file with the appropriate paper work. Whatever your state requires.
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Imagine this guy bringing their car with his own parts to your shop.
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I had a hard and fast policy of NO CUSTOMER SUPPLIED PARTS! Then this summer I broke that rule and agreed to install customer supplied A/C compressor, receiver/dryer, expansion valve and belt. Well it seems there were two belts, an early and late design. Guess which one she had? She was told right up front, before ever touching the thing how much it would cost and that there was ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY. Seems her stretch fit belt was a little too long so after a day or so it started to squeal. She brings it back, of course it's my fault because I just "fixed it." You know that story of the charges are directly related to your attitude? Well she was to a *itch what a *itch is to a reasonable person. So she is going to pay me to look at the car, she is going to pay me to replace HER wrong belt and she is going to pay for the belt. When I tell her what is wrong, what it will cost and how long it will take to get the parts she goes ballistic. Where is the part? Why can't she go get the part (the car is on the hoist partially torn apart). Why does she have to pay to fix my mistake? Etc. Etc. Etc.She refuses to agree to pay for the proper belt. She also complains because I will not take her car down off the hoist until she pays me for my inspection. Like I said, it's all related to attitude lady.
A couple months later she posts negative reviews on farcebook and Google. Like all good fiction there is a basis in reality but everything else is pure fantasy. I was going to charge her $150 and the dealer installed her belt for $40. Well the belt was $29 plus tax and labor. The dealer would not be installing a stretch-fit belt with a labor time of .6 hour. Oh, and the noisy belt was a "fire hazard." And I "told her it would take only 4 hours and it took 7." The expansion valve alone has a book time of 2.8 hours, plus the receiver dryer (.6) the compressor (.9) evac and recharge, yep, I told her 4 hours alright.
Bottom line is I never should have broken my own rule. No matter how many times, how many ways, or how many reminders you give the customer, even notarized documents won't stop the amnesia of NO WARRANTY. "But you just fixed it." Nope, never again, NO CUSTOMER SUPPLIED PARTS! With the exception of special interest/vintage vehicles where there ar every few sources anyway. And even then I will resist. Don't do it guys. Just don't install customer supplied parts. There literally is NOTHING (good) in it for you.
The problem isn't so much with the parts it is the customers it attracts. These people do not value your service. They believe that they are purchasing a commodity like they would at Wal-Mart. This is all besides the fact we are losing half of our gross sales when we don't sell parts.
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I should be more honest. They were not 100% free. However, we got them really cheap, and they were basically new having only been used for one or two lifts up and down on the movie set...
Lucky bastid!
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Shielding from liability is the major concern for loaner cars. I would love to have loaner cars with some nice decals or vinyl for advertising purposes however liability is such a huge concern especially where I am at.
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ATI seems to have a mixed bag of reviews. The advocates some of which are on this forum are very knowledgable and seem to do very well.
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Thanks Car ER, funny you mentioned that today I just had the same conversation with an enterprise representative today.
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Car ER, we try to educate them as best we can. If all else fails and they are looking to bottom feed then send them down the road. If you present yourself as a professional establishment then you should be able to reduce that sort of thing but we can never completely get rid of the people that just don't get it.
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kingwoodshell,
If you have a class nearby I would recommend to take advantage. The cost is really nominal if you can take even 1 thing away from the class. What I like about Elite is they are not pushy when it comes to their sales pitch on their other services. They mention it, give you some information about it and invite you to ask them questions if you are interested. I've been to other 1 day classes and they are absolutely horrible with their pushy sales of their other services. Management Success comes to mind and I had a HORRIBLE experience with them. Also the difference with other 1 day workshops is this is strictly a sales workshop opposed to a shop management/shop owners work shop. If you as the owner are the SA or you have SAs it is worth attending.
Do you guys perform Fleet work? Do you work on Sprinters? How profitable?
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Ive been asked for work in sprinters before. Feels like there may be an opportunity