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I'm inclined to think it may still be a mount issue. Where did the replacement mount come from? If one was broken chances are the others are not at full capacity either. I haven't worked on this line of cars for a while now, but the last few I did, I recommended replacement of all three because they were actually worn. Try placing a 2x4 on a jack and slightly raise the engine with it in drive to see if the vibration disappears. I couldn't imagine a flush causing a vibration issue, maybe that is just when they decided to notice it.

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A first time customer, referred to us by another customer, brought her 2003 Honda V6 Accord to us for a vibration problem felt through the steering wheel only at idle, in drive, with the car stopped. The vibration is more prominent when she begins to turn the steering wheel. The vibration is slight, but it’s there.

 

We did find a broken engine mount and replaced it. The customer says it’s “slightly” better, but the problem is not solved. We have gone thru the car with a fine tooth comb and found nothing else wrong. The car only has 50k on the clock and is in pristine condition and well maintained (I saw her records).

 

She said the problem started a year ago when the Dealer did a Power Steering flush and Transmission flush.

 

Does anyone have any ideas or help? Has anyone seen any issues with a vibration in the steering wheel after a Power Steering flush service was performed? Any help would be greatly appreciated.

 

Did you use O/E mount - Yes all should be replaced thier is actually three plus I believe stablizer shock . The aftermarkets sloves the broken but not vibration.

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Did you use Factory mount / Also I belive thier is three mounts plus one or two Stabilizer shock . We ran into the same issue with aftermarket mounts / cured sagged and broken but not vibration.

Thanks Dan R.

 

Several bullentins on this car for vibrations

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Could be a tie rod, either inner or outer. Have you tried an alignment? I am sure one of those three places has at least checked it?? I would think at least. Try this one time, jack up one of the front wheels using the lower control arm just enough for you to comfortably get you hand under it, say maybe 3 or 4 inches? And i say by the control arm because you want to keep the suspension under load or mimic it sitting on the ground. Grab the wheel at 3 and 9 o'clock and quickly turn the wheel back and forth. But only a wiggle and somewhat gentle see if you notice any play or looseness. If you do then its one of the tie rods on that side. Do the same thing at 6 and 12 o'clock and see if there is any play in the ball joints. And both again on the other front wheel (front only). Beyond that you might be looking at a power steering or suspension issue.

Atif Naser

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I have hot rodded a lot of power steering pumps to add hyralic rams to 4x4 steering. If the bypass valve in the pump is opening and closing I can see a vibration. Have you run the motor without the belt to verify her concern? Right fluid in the pump?

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Have you attempted to compare this vehicle to another vehicle of the same likeness? Sometimes, after a customer opts to move forward with a service, they approach the vehicle with a heightened state of awareness regarding the system serviced. Is it possible that this condition was always present and is inherent to the vehicle? In your professional opinion, does this vehicle have a legitimate condition/abnormality.

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      It always amazes me when I hear about a technician who quits one repair shop to go work at another shop for less money. I know you have heard of this too, and you’ve probably asked yourself, “Can this be true? And Why?” The answer rests within the culture of the company. More specifically, the boss, manager, or a toxic work environment literally pushed the technician out the door.
      While money and benefits tend to attract people to a company, it won’t keep them there. When a technician begins to look over the fence for greener grass, that is usually a sign that something is wrong within the workplace. It also means that his or her heart is probably already gone. If the issue is not resolved, no amount of money will keep that technician for the long term. The heart is always the first to leave. The last thing that leaves is the technician’s toolbox.
      Shop owners: Focus more on employee retention than acquisition. This is not to say that you should not be constantly recruiting. You should. What it does means is that once you hire someone, your job isn’t over, that’s when it begins. Get to know your technicians. Build strong relationships. Have frequent one-on-ones. Engage in meaningful conversation. Find what truly motivates your technicians. You may be surprised that while money is a motivator, it’s usually not the prime motivator.
      One last thing; the cost of technician turnover can be financially devastating. It also affects shop morale. Do all you can to create a workplace where technicians feel they are respected, recognized, and know that their work contributes to the overall success of the company. This will lead to improved morale and team spirit. Remember, when you see a technician’s toolbox rolling out of the bay on its way to another shop, the heart was most likely gone long before that.
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