Quantcast
Jump to content

Recommended Posts

Posted

Years ago I figured out what cards cost and added the proper amount to my labor rate. Very easy. I have a friend who owns a shop and did the cash discount or pay a fee on the credit card. His first month he had three bounced checks. I asked him how did that work out for you ? LOL    Customers just want the bottom line. All the extra fees agravate me, IE: $10 fuel charge to deliver oil. 

 

  • Like 1
Posted

Joe. I thought the exact same way, our credit card processing fees were over 45000 a year! We charge and now we are getting more checks and cash, but I am able to not charge the fees at my discretion! I hate to say but people are getting educated on paying the fee.  It's hard, I did a cylinder head on a Jeep last week the bill was over 4000, the fees would have been over 120.00, customer was told and they wrote a check, it's getting harder to hide and eat those costs. 

  • Like 1
Posted

Joe, In our area the dealers are now charging by the 1/2 hour and they are also charging the fees as well! most dealers around here are 180 dollars and hour!

  • Like 1
  • 3 months later...
Posted

We have been charging for the last 3 to 4 months, but I do have the option to eat the charge. Its hard but I do explain it to the customer and I have a sign up. I don't charge shop supplies but I do charge for Oil and filter disposal and tire disposal. You have to pick and choose and the credit card fees you can validate versus  charging shop supplies. I always felt the shop supplies were a necessary charge but I always heard a lot of grief from it.

Posted

Joe,

I can see that for invoices above $2k or $3k, if the customer knows ahead of time.

I see how that makes sense to the business owner (and their accountant). But I’ll bet to the customer for the lower invoices, you’re trying to eek out another $10 or $15. AND, they could think, where else are you eeking out an extra few bucks (or more)? Apparently you are not profitable enough to absorb that. Why? Not enough (good) customers? Why?

It’s a convenience for them. So they’re stuck paying that or write a check or go to the bank and get $1000 in cash??? Plus many get cash back or flight miles, which you’re also taking.

Remember searching airline prices, comparing prices, making your decision, only to find out at the very end there are additional charges? Taxes, fees, and those darn baggage charges. Did you like that? I doubt it. I think credit card fees fall into that category (for the customer).

  • Like 2
Posted
On 10/24/2024 at 8:31 AM, Joe Marconi said:

You will accomplish the same thing, and not bring attention to the customer that small fee that may be a big deal. 

Agreed, the customer, and people in general, remember how you made them feel. If you can make them feel good about a purchase or an experience at your shop they'll likely come back, spread a good word, and be willing to pay you even more than originally planned. It pays to be a good human being, especially in the auto industry.

  • Like 1
Posted

I have NEVER charged for credit cards except to very few people who I only charge my costs where there is no profit to absorb the credit cards fees. These people include family and just a couple of very close friends. They knew that I was making exactly 0¢ from them so they would have to pay the credit card fees if they needed to use a credit card.

Now on to regular customers. I have charged shop supplies for almost the entire time I have been in business )coming up on 20 years) and have never heard any complaints or push back. But then again EVERY service business, from auto shops to dealerships, plumbers and electricians charge a supply fee so I think they are accustomed to it. My understanding is that if a business is audited by the state, they can't use the "shop supplies" charge, they have to itemize everything that they used that would fall under "Supplies" and make sure they paid sales tax on the appropriate amount for all of those nuts and bolts and subscriptions and chemicals, etc. The way I see it, I pay sales tax on a lot of stuff that would go into the "supplies" category like printer paper, hand soap, toner, lubricants (penetrating oil, silicone spray, etc.), first aid supplies, scanner updates and so forth that any supplies that I don't pay sales tax on would be negligible AND I charge sales tax on the shop supplies (since the state considers the items that are categorized as "shop supplies" as "taxable sales" anyway) so I believe that if I were ever audited, the state would owe me a refund based on the itemized sales' tax due vs. what was collected or paid at the time of purchase. So I am not concerned with an audit causing me problems other than the auditor being upset that I am doing business this way.

 

I do not currently and do not intend to charge my customers for using credit cards. I do educate them that it costs me several percent and their "rewards" are actually coming out my pocket because I am charged 1.++% for the privilege of taking their rewards card on top of the usual processing fees, all so the credit card company can be so generous to "give" them back 1%, maybe. I am a small shop and my credit card fees rarely exceed $600 a month. I too see it as a C.O.D.B. I would like to charge a fee for it, but I don't like paying it when I go to a merchant who charges it so I won't do that to my customers. I just absorb it from my profits, but I can see why some places would want to charge for their customers "convenience." As far as I am aware, no dealership charges this fee and few if any other independent repair shops in town charge a credit card fee.

Posted

I replaced four runflat tires on a Mercedes GLA250 yesterday, the tires were 268.88 each and we charged 35.00 to mount and balance each tire and 6.00 a tire disposal, now tire are very competitively priced, total job price was 1239.52 plus 74.37 in tax 1313.89. The credit card fees on that transaction were almost 39.50, were do you absorb or hide that when you are trying to stay competitive with your competition? As long as your transparent with your customers they know about the credit card fees. I made 248.00 on that job, thats a lot different than 208.00, thats almost 17% of your profit.  I tell the customers, I will give you a fair price but I can't absorb the fees and people give me cash or checks or they pay the fee.  

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
  • Available Subscriptions

  • Have you checked out Joe's Latest Blog?

         0 comments
      It always amazes me when I hear about a technician who quits one repair shop to go work at another shop for less money. I know you have heard of this too, and you’ve probably asked yourself, “Can this be true? And Why?” The answer rests within the culture of the company. More specifically, the boss, manager, or a toxic work environment literally pushed the technician out the door.
      While money and benefits tend to attract people to a company, it won’t keep them there. When a technician begins to look over the fence for greener grass, that is usually a sign that something is wrong within the workplace. It also means that his or her heart is probably already gone. If the issue is not resolved, no amount of money will keep that technician for the long term. The heart is always the first to leave. The last thing that leaves is the technician’s toolbox.
      Shop owners: Focus more on employee retention than acquisition. This is not to say that you should not be constantly recruiting. You should. What it does means is that once you hire someone, your job isn’t over, that’s when it begins. Get to know your technicians. Build strong relationships. Have frequent one-on-ones. Engage in meaningful conversation. Find what truly motivates your technicians. You may be surprised that while money is a motivator, it’s usually not the prime motivator.
      One last thing; the cost of technician turnover can be financially devastating. It also affects shop morale. Do all you can to create a workplace where technicians feel they are respected, recognized, and know that their work contributes to the overall success of the company. This will lead to improved morale and team spirit. Remember, when you see a technician’s toolbox rolling out of the bay on its way to another shop, the heart was most likely gone long before that.
  • Similar Topics

    • By Joe Marconi

      Premium Member Content 

      This content is hidden to guests, one of the benefits of a paid membership. Please login or register to view this content.

    • By carmcapriotto
      Want to make your shop’s marketing stand out this May? Join Brian Walker and Caroline LeGrand as they break down creative ways to engage your audience, plan your content, and connect with your community.
      In this episode, they’ll share creative campaign ideas, fun social media prompts, and practical ways to highlight your team, engage customers, and boost brand awareness. Plus, get inspiration for using national holidays like National Skilled Trades Day, Road Trip Day, and even Pizza Party Day to keep your content fresh and relevant.
      Don’t miss this opportunity to simplify your marketing and make a real impact. Tune in now and start planning content that connects!
      Thank you to our friends at RepairPal for providing you this episode. RepairPal is the key that unlocks more business for your repair shop. Learn More at RepairPal.com/shops. 
      AppFueled makes marketing easy. It’s a CRM designed for auto repair shops with tools like segmentation, reminders, and even a call center. Don’t wait—get started today at appfueled.com
      Lagniappe (Books, Links, Other Podcasts, etc)
      Days of the Year
      National Calendar 
      Show Notes with Timestamps
      Introduction to the Episode (00:00:01)  Brian and Caroline introduce the podcast and thank RepairPal for their support. Preparing for May Marketing (00:01:16)  Discussion on planning marketing strategies for May, emphasizing the importance of advance preparation. General Marketing Themes (00:02:00)  Overview of summer-related topics, tax return spending, and pre-trip inspections for vehicles. Motorcycle Safety Awareness Month (00:03:17)  Highlighting the importance of motorcycle safety and tips for drivers and riders. Military Appreciation Month (00:03:39)  Encouraging auto repair shops to give back to military personnel throughout May. Teacher Appreciation Week (00:04:34)  Ideas for showing gratitude to teachers, including small gestures and discounts. National Pet Week (00:05:50)  Encouragement to engage customers by sharing pet photos on social media. Celebrating Various Appreciation Weeks (00:07:05)  Discussion on multiple appreciation weeks in May and the importance of selecting key themes. Learn to Ride a Bike Day (00:08:04)  Suggestions for community engagement by helping kids learn to ride bikes. National Skilled Trades Day (00:09:00)  Promoting skilled trades and hosting events to educate youth about automotive careers. Star Wars Day (May the 4th) (00:10:26)  Fun marketing ideas related to Star Wars Day for engaging customers. National Odometer Day (May 12th) (00:11:42)  Ideas for a fun contest involving vehicle odometer readings to engage customers. RepairPal Certification (00:13:14)  Discussion on becoming RepairPal certified and the benefits for auto repair shops. App Fueled Introduction (00:14:18)  Overview of a customer loyalty app designed for auto service shops. National Lost Sock Memorial Day (00:14:54)  Encouragement for creative engagement ideas related to this fun holiday. Military Appreciation Month (00:15:06)  Suggestions for acknowledging military families and providing discounts. National Dance Like a Chicken Day (00:15:59)  Call to action for engaging with customers through fun activities. Check Your Wipers Day (00:16:27)  Importance of checking wipers before summer travel and educating clients. National Pizza Party Day (00:18:05)  Highlighting the fun of pizza party day and community engagement. Armed Forces Day (00:18:28)  Ideas for honoring military personnel and their contributions. Memorial Day Awareness (00:18:46)  Discussion on the solemn nature of Memorial Day and appropriate observances. National Road Trip Day (00:19:34)  Emphasis on preparing vehicles for summer road trips and inspections. National Rescue Dog Day (00:20:13)  Celebrating rescue pets and their connection to the auto repair community. World Marketing Day (00:20:48)  Encouragement to appreciate and promote effective marketing efforts. Paws and Pistons Campaign (00:22:41)  Combining pet care with auto services for community engagement. Prepping for Road Trip Day (00:24:51)  Continued focus on educating customers about road trip preparations. Engagement Ideas (00:25:34)  Encouragement to share personal stories and engage customers creatively.
      Auto Repair Marketing Mastermind (00:26:01)  Invitation to join the Facebook group for sharing marketing ideas and support.
      How To Get In Touch
      Join The Auto Repair Marketing Mastermind Group on Facebook
      Meet The Pros
      Follow SMP on Facebook
      Follow SMP on Instagram
      Get The Ultimate Guide to Auto Repair Shop Marketing Book
      Email Us Podcast Questions or Topics 
      Thanks again for listening to The Auto Repair Marketing Podcast on Aftermarket Radio Network. There are some other great shows on the network and you can find them at AftermarketRadioNetwork.com or on your favorite podcast listening apps like Spotify, Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, and many others
      Thanks to our Partners,
      RepairPal at https://repairpal.com/shops. Quality Car Repair. Fair Price Guarantee.
      App Fueled at appfueled.com. “Are you ready to convert clients to members? AppFueled™ specializes in creating custom apps tailored specifically for auto repair businesses. Build your first app like a pro.”
      Aftermarket Radio Network
      Remarkable Results Radio Podcast with Carm Capriotto: Advancing the Aftermarket by Facilitating Wisdom Through Story Telling and Open Discussion
      Diagnosing the Aftermarket A to Z with Matt Fanslow: From Diagnostics to Metallica and Mental Health, Matt Fanslow is Lifting the Hood on Life.
      The Weekly Blitz with Chris Cotton: Weekly Inspiration with Business Coach Chris Cotton from AutoFix - Auto Shop Coaching.
      Speak Up! Effective Communication with Craig O'Neill: Develop Interpersonal and Professional Communication Skills when Speaking to Audiences of Any Size.
      Business by the Numbers with Hunt Demarest: Understand the Numbers of Your Business with CPA Hunt Demarest.
      The Auto Repair Marketing Podcast with Kim and Brian Walker: Marketing Experts Brian & Kim Walker Work with Shop Owners to Take it to the Next Level.
      The Aftermarket Radio Network: https://aftermarketradionetwork.com/
      Remarkable Results Radio Podcast with Carm Capriotto: Advancing the Aftermarket by Facilitating Wisdom Through Story Telling and Open Discussion. https://remarkableresults.biz/
      Diagnosing the Aftermarket A to Z with Matt Fanslow: From Diagnostics to Metallica and Mental Health, Matt Fanslow is Lifting the Hood on Life. https://mattfanslow.captivate.fm/
      Business by the Numbers with Hunt Demarest: Understand the Numbers of Your Business with CPA Hunt Demarest. https://huntdemarest.captivate.fm/
      The Auto Repair Marketing Podcast with Kim and Brian Walker: Marketing Experts Brian & Kim Walker Work with Shop Owners to Take it to the Next Level. https://autorepairmarketing.captivate.fm/
      The Weekly Blitz with Chris Cotton: Weekly Inspiration with Business Coach Chris Cotton from AutoFix - Auto Shop Coaching. https://chriscotton.captivate.fm/
      Speak Up! Effective Communication with Craig O'Neill: Develop Interpersonal and Professional Communication Skills when Speaking to Audiences of Any Size. https://craigoneill.captivate.fm/
      Click to go to the Podcast on Remarkable Results Radio
    • By carmcapriotto
      Thanks to our Partners, NAPA TRACS, and Today's Class "'As a younger shop owner, a struggling shop owner, it's a lot to try and find and fix. The ultimate goal is to work on one thing at a time. How do you eat an elephant? One bite at a time."
      Recorded at the 2025 Institute Summit, discover the transformative power of coaching and accountability within the automotive repair industry. Jennifer Hulbert and Aaron Woods, facilitators of the Institute's performance groups, share insights on how peer support and leadership development can drive significant improvements in shop owners' businesses. They emphasize the importance of personal growth, strategic focus, and the ripple effect of better business practices on employees and communities.
      Jennifer Hulbert, Service Plus Automotive, Calcium, NY. Institute for Automotive Business Excellence. Listen to Jennifer’s previous episodes HERE Aaron Woods, X-tra Mile Auto Care, Stillwater, OK. Institute for Automotive Business Excellence. Listen to Aaron’s previous episodes HERE Show Notes Watch Full Video Episode The Institute of Automotive Business Excellence: https://www.wearetheinstitute.com/ Guest Introductions (00:00:00) The Role of Coaching (00:02:12) Personal Transformation Through Groups (00:03:11) Collective Accountability (00:05:06) Transformation in Leadership (00:06:06) Growth vs. Improvement (00:07:43) Removing Limitations (00:08:58) Building Leaders (00:09:04) Shared Experiences in Accountability (00:10:52) Chosen Family Dynamics (00:15:41) The Importance of Support (00:16:24) Networking Group Realities (00:18:24) The Importance of Internal Motivation (00:18:41) Lessons from the Burro (00:19:33) Facilitator Challenges (00:20:44) Self-Responsibility in Coaching (00:21:20) Understanding Shop Ownership (00:22:29) Taking the First Step (00:23:08) Aaron's Transformation Story (00:23:15) The Power of Exposure (00:28:39) The Journey of Learning (00:32:39) Starting Point for Improvement (00:34:10) The Importance of Production Management (00:36:11) Key Issues in Sales and Margin Management (00:36:44) Factors Influencing Shop Success (00:36:58) Facilitator's Rewarding Experience (00:38:03) Impact of Group Collaboration (00:38:29) The Spiderweb Effect on Society (00:40:15) The Importance of Coaching and Networking (00:40:26) Benefits of Group Processes for Employees (00:41:15)
      Thanks to our Partner, NAPA TRACS NAPA TRACS will move your shop into the SMS fast lane with onsite training and six days a week of support and local representation. Find NAPA TRACS on the Web at http://napatracs.com/ Thanks to our Partner, Today's Class Optimize training with Today's Class: In just 5 minutes daily, boost knowledge retention and improve team performance. Find Today's Class on the web at https://www.todaysclass.com/ Connect with the Podcast: -The Aftermarket Radio Network: https://aftermarketradionetwork.com -Follow on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/RemarkableResultsRadioPodcast/ -Join Our Private Facebook Community: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1734687266778976 -Join Our Virtual Toastmasters Club: https://remarkableresults.biz/toastmasters -Subscribe on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/carmcapriotto -Follow on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/carmcapriotto/ -Follow on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/remarkableresultsradiopodcast/ -Follow on X: https://twitter.com/RResultsBiz -Visit the Website: https://remarkableresults.biz/ -Join our Insider List: https://remarkableresults.biz/insider -All books mentioned on our podcasts: https://remarkableresults.biz/books -Our Classroom page for personal or team learning: https://remarkableresults.biz/classroom -Buy Me a Coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/carm -Special episode collections: https://remarkableresults.biz/collections The Aftermarket Radio Network: https://aftermarketradionetwork.com/ Remarkable Results Radio Podcast with Carm Capriotto: Advancing the Aftermarket by Facilitating Wisdom Through Story Telling and Open Discussion. https://remarkableresults.biz/ Diagnosing the Aftermarket A to Z with Matt Fanslow: From Diagnostics to Metallica and Mental Health, Matt Fanslow is Lifting the Hood on Life. https://mattfanslow.captivate.fm/ Business by the Numbers with Hunt Demarest: Understand the Numbers of Your Business with CPA Hunt Demarest. https://huntdemarest.captivate.fm/ The Auto Repair Marketing Podcast with Kim and Brian Walker: Marketing Experts Brian & Kim Walker Work with Shop Owners to Take it to the Next Level. https://autorepairmarketing.captivate.fm/ The Weekly Blitz with Chris Cotton: Weekly Inspiration with Business Coach Chris Cotton from AutoFix - Auto Shop Coaching. https://chriscotton.captivate.fm/ Speak Up! Effective Communication with Craig O'Neill: Develop Interpersonal and Professional Communication Skills when Speaking to Audiences of Any Size. https://craigoneill.captivate.fm/
      Click to go to the Podcast on Remarkable Results Radio
    • By Joe Marconi

      Premium Member Content 

      This content is hidden to guests, one of the benefits of a paid membership. Please login or register to view this content.

    • By carmcapriotto
      Getting involved in your community is powerful, but how do you share your efforts without sounding boastful? There’s a fine line between successful and selfish self-promotion, and in this episode, Brian and Kim Walker discuss how to highlight your work with authenticity and gratitude—not ego.
      We’ll discuss framing your message to focus on the cause, aligning community service with your company culture and purpose, and sharing stories that connect and inspire rather than just promote. Plus, we’ll share real-life examples—like our team’s work with Our Daily Bread Food Bank—and how to encourage others to get involved.
      Tune in now to learn how to support your community while staying humble and making a real impact!
      Thank you to our friends at RepairPal for providing you this episode. RepairPal is the key that unlocks more business for your repair shop. Learn More at RepairPal.com/shops. 
      Want to revolutionize your marketing? AppFueled does it all—email, text, app notifications, and even call center integration. Stop guessing and start connecting with AppFueled.
      Lagniappe (Books, Links, Other Podcasts, etc)
      Start with Why - By Simon Sinek
      Our Daily Bread Food Bank
      Commission Mankind
      Show Notes with Timestamps
      Introduction to the Episode (00:00:10) Brian introduces the podcast and the topic of community involvement. Topic Suggestion Acknowledgment (00:00:34) Brian mentions Doug DeLuca's suggestion for the episode topic. Sponsor Acknowledgment (00:01:00) Brian thanks RepairPal for sponsoring the episode. Technical Issues Discussion (00:01:30) Brian and Kim discuss technical issues and Brian's experience with braces. Community Involvement Concerns (00:03:44) Kim shares a friend's hesitation about promoting community involvement due to fear of appearing boastful. Successful vs. Selfish Promotion (00:05:44) Discussion about the fine line between effective promotion and self-promotion. Promoting Community Engagement (00:07:24) Kim emphasizes the importance of spacing out promotional posts about community involvement. Starting with Gratitude (00:07:46) Kim suggests starting messages about community involvement with expressions of gratitude. Importance of "Why" (00:09:09) Discussion on the significance of explaining the reasons behind community involvement. Examples of Community Involvement (00:09:15) Brian and Kim share experiences of their community service activities. Promoting Community Work (00:11:25) Brian discusses the importance of promoting community service to demonstrate business values. Messaging about Community Involvement (00:12:21) Kim provides examples of how they communicate their community involvement on social media. Team Engagement in Community Work (00:14:20) Brian reflects on the team's connection with community members during service activities.  Closing Sponsor Acknowledgment (00:15:14) Brian thanks RepairPal again for supporting the episode. Community Engagement Strategies (00:15:26)   Discussion on how RepairPal helps auto shops gain customers through certification and fair pricing. Customer Loyalty Apps (00:16:25)  Introduction of App Fueled, a customer loyalty app designed for auto service shops. Highlighting Community Work (00:17:11)  Tips on emphasizing organizational missions instead of personal achievements in community involvement. Authentic Community Involvement (00:17:54)   The importance of sharing community efforts without seeking personal recognition or return. Sharing GoFundMe Campaigns (00:18:51)  Encouragement to promote charitable causes without boasting about personal donations. Industry-Specific Support (00:19:16)  Discussion on giving back to the auto repair industry and local communities. Respecting Privacy in Sharing (00:19:39)  The balance between sharing community involvement and respecting the privacy of those served. Educating Marketing Teams (00:22:43)  The need to guide marketing teams on how to portray community involvement authentically. Collaborating with Other Organizations (00:24:17)  Benefits of partnering with local businesses for community service efforts. Celebrating Local Teams (00:25:38)  Highlighting local sports teams and community events to promote goodwill. Telling the Story of Donations (00:27:40)  Importance of sharing the personal connection behind charitable contributions. Personal Anecdotes from Mission Trips (00:28:28)  Sharing impactful stories from mission trips to illustrate the importance of community support. Personal Anecdote on Community Support (00:29:29)  Kim shares a personal story about supporting organizations that assist her brother with disabilities. Encouragement to Join Facebook Group (00:30:44)  Kim invites listeners to join their Facebook group for further engagement and community building. Request for Podcast Reviews (00:31:03)  Brian asks listeners to leave reviews for the podcast, emphasizing the importance of feedback. Closing Remarks and Sponsorship Acknowledgment (00:31:36)  Brian concludes the episode, thanking sponsors and encouraging listeners to tune in next week.
      Thanks to our Partners,
      RepairPal at https://repairpal.com/shops. Quality Car Repair. Fair Price Guarantee.
      App Fueled at appfueled.com. “Are you ready to convert clients to members? AppFueled™ specializes in creating custom apps tailored specifically for auto repair businesses. Build your first app like a pro.”
      Aftermarket Radio Network
      Remarkable Results Radio Podcast with Carm Capriotto: Advancing the Aftermarket by Facilitating Wisdom Through Story Telling and Open Discussion
      Diagnosing the Aftermarket A to Z with Matt Fanslow: From Diagnostics to Metallica and Mental Health, Matt Fanslow is Lifting the Hood on Life.
      The Weekly Blitz with Chris Cotton: Weekly Inspiration with Business Coach Chris Cotton from AutoFix - Auto Shop Coaching.
      Speak Up! Effective Communication with Craig O'Neill: Develop Interpersonal and Professional Communication Skills when Speaking to Audiences of Any Size.
      Business by the Numbers with Hunt Demarest: Understand the Numbers of Your Business with CPA Hunt Demarest.
      The Auto Repair Marketing Podcast with Kim and Brian Walker: Marketing Experts Brian & Kim Walker Work with Shop Owners to Take it to the Next Level.
      Click to go to the Podcast on Remarkable Results Radio


  • Our Sponsors

×
×
  • Create New...