Quantcast
Jump to content

Recommended Posts

Posted

MotorAge published a training article and video from Jeremy O'Neal, AdvisorFix.    See this article here:  https://www.vehicleservicepros.com/shop-operations/service-repair/whitepaper/21253866/advisorfix-beyond-flat-rate-mastering-the-hidden-art-of-labor-profitability

It's definitely an interesting training session.  Jeremy explores some areas of thought that I've never considered.  My mind is a bit more basic in my approach.   I'd encourage you to check it out. 

What do you think of his approach to managing profitability? 

 

Posted

I am a very big believer in what Jeremy is describing. The first attachment is my service techs performance for the past three years. I have always wondered how we do against shops in a similar business model and retail environment, especially on the items marked with red arrows.

The second attachment is what my techs fill out every day. The orange arrows are what they fill in daily, using two SMS reports. The rest populates based on those 4 columns.

We would fit somewhere between "Generalists" and "General Generalists", in the descriptions below. 

 

Specialized Specialists

Approx 70% or more of service dollars come from work on only certain aspects of automotive service, examples might be:

Diag specialists

Locksmiths

Hvac specialists

Electrical specialists

Transmission specialists

Brake Specialists

Adas specialists

Specialized vehicles(fire, rescue, motorhome, ect)

Oil change 

Average Opportunity for technicians working at shops in this category, to see similar issues and perform similar services on a repeating basis – High Likelihood

 

Specialists

Approx 70% or more of service dollars come from work on only one or two brands of vehicles

Average Opportunity for technicians working at shops in this category, to see similar issues and perform similar services on a repeating basis –Highest Likelihood

 

General specialists

Approx 70% or more of service dollars come from work typically only on cars from a certain part of the world, like euro or asian, or a specific range of services.

Average Opportunity for technicians working at shops in this category, to see similar issues and perform similar services on a repeating basis –High Likelihood

 

Generalists

Most of the automotive service facilities fit here. Most makes and models, most services.

Average Opportunity for technicians working at shops in this category, to see similar issues and perform similar services on a repeating basis –Low Likelihood

 
General Generalists

These will typically be small market generalists. (approx. <10k households in a 10 mile radius, or < 30 homes per sq. mile in a 10 mile radius)

There would typically be no specialists, beside oil change, in these markets, so these shops will likely

have a broader service offering,. May include mix of light, medium and heavy duty vehicles

and/or specialized vehicle service like fire, rescue, motorhomes, ect.

Average Opportunity for technicians working at shops in this category, to see similar issues and perform similar services on a repeating basis –Lowest Likelihood

 

 

tech performance 19 20 21.png

tech tracker example2021.png

  • Like 1
Posted
5 hours ago, rpllib said:

I am a very big believer in what Jeremy is describing. The first attachment is my service techs performance for the past three years. I have always wondered how we do against shops in a similar business model and retail environment, especially on the items marked with red arrows.

The second attachment is what my techs fill out every day. The orange arrows are what they fill in daily, using two SMS reports. The rest populates based on those 4 columns.

I'm curious...  Do you manage daily profitability on a job by job basis as he does?    I definitely get measuring and monitoring overall profitability.

I thought I was tracking lots of data, but I am humbled in seeing your charts. 

For your red arrows, I think your asking these questions (am I close?):

  1. Technician Hourly Pay (total pay / hours worked)
  2. Technician Effective Flat Rate (total pay / billed hours)
  3. Gross Profit per Technician Clock Hour (GP / hours worked)

It seems to me that these measurements are mostly comparing technicians against other technicians.   I guess #3 is a good way to normalize measurements across different sized businesses.    I track this data in aggregate monthly.   Not per technician.  I do keep an eye on individual Technician Efficiency (during payroll), but I'm not tracking (logging) it. I may need to do more.  So far, I've focused on startup survival over efficiency.  We are just now starting to look deeper and wider. 

For your daily technician tracking, I see hours worked and hours flagged and labor hours.  What happens for jobs that span multiple days?  What happens if they finished today and cashed out 4 days from now?   Are they logged on actual day completed or on the day it's invoiced?

 

Posted

We have a pop graph in our SMS that we have set profitability goals on, so it is easy to look at profitability on a invoice basis. This assumes that you regularly update your cost of labor in your Sms, which we do, and that you are razor sharp on costing parts accurately. 

  1. Technician Hourly Pay (total pay / hours worked)  This is not tech hourly pay, if you pay hourly. This figure does not care how you pay on a week to week basis. It is total W2 wage "gross dollars" (paid in a period) to the tech divided by total hours worked in clock time (in the same period). This does count on accurate time records, but it does not care how the gross pay is accumulated. 
  2. Technician Effective Flat Rate (total pay / billed hours). This is correct, It is total W2 wage "gross dollars" (paid in a period) to the tech divided by total hours "billed" in labor time (in the same period).
  3. Gross Profit per Technician Clock Hour (GP / hours worked). This is correct. Accurate total GP$ generated by a technicians activities for a specific time period, divided by total clock hours worked in the same time period. 

The effort is aimed at trying to come up with some financial benchmarks, that are not affected by type of pay plan. We have techs on 2 different types of pay plans.

"So far, I've focused on startup survival over efficiency.  We are just now starting to look deeper and wider"  sounds like you are on the right track. I hope you are quicker then I am at picking up on this kind of stuff. I am 42 years in

 Jobs that span multiple days are accounted for on the day they are closed. It catches up over the course of weeks and month. 

I meet with my staff in groups (leadership, service techs, lube and tire techs)weekly, and the first 10 minutes is going over month to date goals and performance. We were guilty of what Jeremy describes in the video, for most of my career. We would get to the end of the month, and look back, and say "while that month sucked".  Now, our daily trackers play as a slide show on our screen savers (a dozen workstations in the shop and growing), as well as staying focused with the weekly meetings. 

It helps a lot, maybe more than any of us realize, if you are "digitally adept" when it comes to things like computers, networks, software, ect. Excel has been our close friend for decades

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
  • Available Subscriptions

  • Have you checked out Joe's Latest Blog?

         0 comments
      It always amazes me when I hear about a technician who quits one repair shop to go work at another shop for less money. I know you have heard of this too, and you’ve probably asked yourself, “Can this be true? And Why?” The answer rests within the culture of the company. More specifically, the boss, manager, or a toxic work environment literally pushed the technician out the door.
      While money and benefits tend to attract people to a company, it won’t keep them there. When a technician begins to look over the fence for greener grass, that is usually a sign that something is wrong within the workplace. It also means that his or her heart is probably already gone. If the issue is not resolved, no amount of money will keep that technician for the long term. The heart is always the first to leave. The last thing that leaves is the technician’s toolbox.
      Shop owners: Focus more on employee retention than acquisition. This is not to say that you should not be constantly recruiting. You should. What it does means is that once you hire someone, your job isn’t over, that’s when it begins. Get to know your technicians. Build strong relationships. Have frequent one-on-ones. Engage in meaningful conversation. Find what truly motivates your technicians. You may be surprised that while money is a motivator, it’s usually not the prime motivator.
      One last thing; the cost of technician turnover can be financially devastating. It also affects shop morale. Do all you can to create a workplace where technicians feel they are respected, recognized, and know that their work contributes to the overall success of the company. This will lead to improved morale and team spirit. Remember, when you see a technician’s toolbox rolling out of the bay on its way to another shop, the heart was most likely gone long before that.
  • Similar Topics

    • By carmcapriotto
      Our world is rushing head first into an A.I. future and we want to encourage our listeners to remain vigilant in these exciting times, as there is some legitimate cause for concern with the changes brought by A.I. Technology.
      Joining us as our guest is Dan Vance from Shop Dog Marketing.
      Craig has known Dan for a few years now and it was at ASTA in 2023 that he first heard Dan Speak Up on the topic of AI to a group of shop-owners on the promise and peril of AI…and he saw Dan deliver a presentation on the topic again at the MARS marketing conference with the Institute for Business Excellence in (beautiful) Ogde, UT earlier this year.
      In this episode Dan acknowledges many of Craig's concerns regarding AI, while they both align on the actual benefits. 
      Craig states regularly that the last skill machines should ever be able to take from us is our ability to communicate interpersonally and … but in some areas - A.I. is far more capable of outperforming certain tasks.  While that is happening - there remains a disconnect between AI’s ability to generate data and present the data in a way that can produce more effective interactions with real people. 
      Our listeners who may share in Craig’s concerns will no doubt appreciate Dan’s calm and reassuring thoughts on the topic.  
      Watch the YouTube Video
      Topics include:  
      Early AI and Machine learning The concept of Human Capital. Authenticity as a new focus Communication tendency becoming less synchronous Efficiency vs. Authenticity and what we lose AI Strengths and practical uses Social Proof - and a word on Reviews and AI Google quality rater guidelines - EAT - Experience Authority and Trust
      Join Our Virtual Toastmasters: https://remarkableresults.biz/toastmasters
      Thank You To Our Partners:
      The Institute at WeAreTheInstitute.com.  "Stop stressing over your business, you deserve a good night's sleep. The Institute’s coaching helps you achieve success and financial peace.
      AutoFlow at AutoFlow.com. Your partner in technology, Autoflow consolidates your client interactions - before, during and after the visit to a single thread. Learn more at Autoflow.com
      AutoLeap at AutoLeap.com. Are you tired of juggling multiple tools to manage your auto repair shop? Say hello to the streamlined efficiency of AutoLeap, the #1 all-in-one Auto Repair Shop Management Software!
      Shop Dog Marketing at Shop Dog Marketing.com. "Want to see your auto repair shop thrive? Let Shop Dog Marketing be your guide. Our customer-first approach, combined with AI-driven creative content, ensures top rankings.
      In-Bound at CallInBound.com. Cover your communication needs and revolutionize your auto repair business with AI-driven call analytics from InBound.
      Contact Information
      Email Craig O'Neill: [email protected] Join Our Virtual Toastmasters Club: https://remarkableresults.biz/toastmasters
      The Aftermarket Radio Network: https://aftermarketradionetwork.com/
      Remarkable Results Radio Podcast with Carm Capriotto: Advancing the Aftermarket by Facilitating Wisdom Through Story Telling and Open Discussion. https://remarkableresults.biz/
      Diagnosing the Aftermarket A to Z with Matt Fanslow: From Diagnostics to Metallica and Mental Health, Matt Fanslow is Lifting the Hood on Life. https://mattfanslow.captivate.fm/
      Business by the Numbers with Hunt Demarest: Understand the Numbers of Your Business with CPA Hunt Demarest. https://huntdemarest.captivate.fm/
      The Auto Repair Marketing Podcast with Kim and Brian Walker: Marketing Experts Brian & Kim Walker Work with Shop Owners to Take it to the Next Level. https://autorepairmarketing.captivate.fm/
      The Weekly Blitz with Chris Cotton: Weekly Inspiration with Business Coach Chris Cotton from AutoFix - Auto Shop Coaching. https://chriscotton.captivate.fm/
      Click to go to the Podcast on Remarkable Results Radio
    • By carmcapriotto
      Thanks to our Partners, NAPA TRACS, Auto-Fix Auto Shop Coaching, and Today's Class Recorded at the 2024 ASTA Expo, Dewain DeGarmo from Black's Tire & Auto Service and David Boyes from Today's Class discuss the evolving landscape of training and education in the automotive repair industry. Dewain, overseeing training across 60 stores, shares the challenges of managing a large team while introducing innovative strategies to improve knowledge retention and performance. He also talks about his role as a "puzzle master," tackling complex technical problems and spearheading training programs, including a creative prize system to motivate teams. The discussion highlights how technology is driving improvements in training within the industry. Dewain DeGarmo from Black's Tire & Auto Service David Boyes, President of ‘Today’s Class”  An online learning organization that has been supporting the automotive industry for more than 20 years. David’s previous episodes HERE Show Notes Watch Full Video Episode ASTA EXPO: https://astaexpo.com/ Optimize training with Today's Class: In just 5 minutes daily, boost knowledge retention and improve team performance. Find Today's Class on the web at https://www.todaysclass.com/ Managing a Large Team (00:02:37) Challenges of Change (00:03:28) Joy in Team Development (00:04:14) Dwayne's Journey in the Industry (00:04:31) Becoming the Puzzle Master (00:06:05) Training Evolution (00:08:14) Competitive Training Environment (00:09:29) Unique Prizes in Training (00:11:05) Wrestling Belt as a Prize (00:11:21) Measuring Team Performance (00:12:05) Daily Training Consistency (00:14:06) Dashboard Insights (00:15:10) Building a Training Portal (00:16:02) Aggregating Training Resources (00:16:48) Challenges of Local Training Attendance (00:19:12) Balancing Work and Training (00:20:23) TPMS Training Insights (00:21:06) Generational Work Ethic Discussion (00:22:05) Microlearning for Team Training (00:22:21) Identifying Training Gaps (00:23:01) Investment in Training (00:24:25) Balancing Training Opportunities (00:26:15) Cultural Integration of Training (00:29:00) Importance of Communication Tools (00:32:45) Team Engagement Challenges (00:35:01) Culture of Continuous Learning (00:35:08) Incremental Improvement (00:36:14) Personal Ownership of Knowledge (00:36:29) User Motivation for Training (00:36:47) Boosting Training Scores (00:37:11) Conferences and Learning Retention (00:37:35) Custom Training Requests (00:39:58)
      Thanks to our Partner, NAPA TRACS NAPA TRACS will move your shop into the SMS fast lane with onsite training and six days a week of support and local representation. Find NAPA TRACS on the Web at http://napatracs.com/ Thanks to our Partner, Auto-Fix Auto Shop Coaching Proven Auto Shop Coaching with Results. Over 61 Million in ROI with an Average ROI of 9x. Find Coach Chris Cotton at AutoFix Auto Shop Coaching on the Web at https://autoshopcoaching.com/ Thanks to our Partner, Today's Class Optimize training with Today's Class: In just 5 minutes daily, boost knowledge retention and improve team performance. Find Today's Class on the web at https://www.todaysclass.com/ Connect with the Podcast: -The Aftermarket Radio Network: https://aftermarketradionetwork.com -Follow on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/RemarkableResultsRadioPodcast/ -Join Our Private Facebook Community: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1734687266778976 -Join Our Virtual Toastmasters Club: https://remarkableresults.biz/toastmasters -Subscribe on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/carmcapriotto -Follow on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/carmcapriotto/ -Follow on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/remarkableresultsradiopodcast/ -Follow on X: https://twitter.com/RResultsBiz -Visit the Website: https://remarkableresults.biz/ -Join our Insider List: https://remarkableresults.biz/insider -All books mentioned on our podcasts: https://remarkableresults.biz/books -Our Classroom page for personal or team learning: https://remarkableresults.biz/classroom -Buy Me a Coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/carm -Special episode collections: https://remarkableresults.biz/collections                       Click to go to the Podcast on Remarkable Results Radio
    • By carmcapriotto
      Today’s episode tackles a critical issue that could cost your business thousands—your domain name. What happens if it expires? Spoiler alert: It’s not good. An expired domain can bring your website crashing down, devastate your SEO rankings, and even force you to pay big money to get it back. But don't worry, we’re here to guide you through it!
      We’ll dive into the risks of letting your domain lapse and share practical steps to make sure this never happens to you. This episode is packed with essential advice that could save you a fortune and keep your online presence safe.
      Grab your headphones, hit play, and let’s dive in!
      Thank you to RepairPal for sponsoring The Auto Repair Marketing Podcast. Learn more about RepairPal at https://repairpal.com/shops
      Lagniappe (Books, Links, Other Podcasts, etc)
      Aftermarket Radio Network: https://aftermarketradionetwork.com/ 
      How To Get In Touch
      Group - Auto Repair Marketing Mastermind
      Website - shopmarketingpros.com 
      Facebook - facebook.com/shopmarketingpros 
      Get the Book - shopmarketingpros.com/book
      Instagram - @shopmarketingpros 
      Questions/Ideas - [email protected] 
      Click to go to the Podcast on Remarkable Results Radio
    • By carmcapriotto
      Matt Fanslow addresses misconceptions in the automotive repair industry, focusing on a viral social media video about tire repair. Matt explains the importance of following manufacturer protocols, the risks of improper repairs, and the need for ongoing consumer education. He emphasizes the long-term integrity of honest repairs and advises consumers to ask questions rather than assume malintent from repair shops. 
      Show Notes
      Puncture Repair Procedures: https://www.ustires.org/sites/default/files/2021-10/Puncture_repair_handout_17_2.pdf Tire Repair: What You Can and Cannot Repair on a Flat Tire: https://www.continental-tires.com/products/b2c/tire-knowledge/tire-repair/ Faulty Tire Repair Brings $22.8 Million Court Award: https://www.shopownermag.com/faulty-tire-repair-brings-22-8-million-court-award/ $22.8 Million Faulty Tire Repair Entirely Avoidable: https://www.tirereview.com/22-8-million-faulty-tire-repair-entirely-avoidable/ Discussion on Auto Repair Integrity (00:01:06) Personal Tire Repair Experience (00:01:17) Cost Comparison of Tire Repairs (00:02:25) Incompetence vs. Scamming (00:02:33) Lack of Standard Protocols (00:04:07) Importance of Manufacturer Protocols (00:04:41) Tire Repair Limitations (00:08:37) Legal Precedents in Auto Repair (00:09:42) Consumer Awareness and Questions (00:10:55) Disconnect Between Clients and Mechanics (00:12:04)  
      The Aftermarket Radio Network
       
      Remarkable Results Radio Podcast with Carm Capriotto: Advancing the Aftermarket by Facilitating Wisdom Through Story Telling and Open Discussion
      Diagnosing the Aftermarket A to Z with Matt Fanslow: From Diagnostics to Metallica and Mental Health, Matt Fanslow is Lifting the Hood on Life.
      The Auto Repair Marketing Podcast with Kim and Brian Walker: Marketing Experts Brian & Kim Walker Work with Shop Owners to Take it to the Next Level.
      The Weekly Blitz with Chris Cotton: Weekly Inspiration with Business Coach Chris Cotton from AutoFix - Auto Shop Coaching.
      Business by the Numbers with Hunt Demarest: Understand the Numbers of Your Business with CPA Hunt Demarest.
      Speak Up! Effective Communication with Craig O'Neill: Develop Interpersonal and Professional Communication Skills when Speaking to Audiences of Any Size.
      Click to go to the Podcast on Remarkable Results Radio
    • By carmcapriotto
      Want to create video content that boosts your shop’s visibility and drives more customers to your door?
      Discover how taking on the VEDA (Video Every Day in August) challenge can help you get comfortable on camera, overcome any fears, and make video a natural part of your marketing strategy.
      In this episode, we’ll share practical tips on using video to build trust with your audience, improve your SEO, and showcase your expertise—all while staying consistent with daily video content. Plus, you’ll learn how doing VEDA can help you master video creation and create real connections with your customers.
      Don’t miss out on this chance to level up your video game and see real results for your shop. Tune in now and start creating videos that truly connect!
      Thank you to RepairPal for sponsoring The Auto Repair Marketing Podcast. Learn more about RepairPal at https://repairpal.com/shops
      https://www.facebook.com/brian.walker
      https://www.facebook.com/brian.walker/videos/877852980463356 - Brian’s #veda day 31
      https://www.facebook.com/brian.walker/videos/2358559621160873 - Brian’s #veda day 32
       
      How To Get In Touch
      Group - Auto Repair Marketing Mastermind
      Website - shopmarketingpros.com 
      Facebook - facebook.com/shopmarketingpros 
      Get the Book - shopmarketingpros.com/book
      Instagram - @shopmarketingpros 
      Questions/Ideas - [email protected]
      Click to go to the Podcast on Remarkable Results Radio


  • Our Sponsors



×
×
  • Create New...